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...Is a dead terrorist. Good fucking riddance.
I was watching game of thrones with some friends when one just so happens to check his iPhone and blurts out that bin laden is dead.
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Quote from: [BDS] Andrade on May 01, 2011, 09:03:16 PM
...Is a dead terrorist. Good fucking riddance.
I was watching game of thrones with some friends when one just so happens to check his iPhone and blurts out that bin laden is dead.
Who fucking cares? Terrorists can only succeed in creating terror if we are pussy-ass enough to let them.
Bin Laden is irrelevant and has been for almost a decade. The fact that we are making such a big deal out of his alleged murder now just shows how America is no longer the home of the brave, let alone the free. We're a bunch of whimpering slaves who get excited and happy when mommy tells us the bogey-man is dead.
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Quote from: [BDS] Fog on May 01, 2011, 09:48:02 PM
Quote from: [BDS] Andrade on May 01, 2011, 09:03:16 PM
...Is a dead terrorist. Good fucking riddance.
I was watching game of thrones with some friends when one just so happens to check his iPhone and blurts out that bin laden is dead.
Who fucking cares? Terrorists can only succeed in creating terror if we are pussy-ass enough to let them.
Bin Laden is irrelevant and has been for almost a decade. The fact that we are making such a big deal out of his alleged murder now just shows how America is no longer the home of the brave, let alone the free. We're a bunch of whimpering slaves who get excited and happy when mommy tells us the bogey-man is dead.
Weak sauce.
you sound ridiculous. This guy has been a focal point Since the entire thing started!! I understand the fact that people taking to the streets is a bit excessive but at the same time the major gatherings have taken place at the sites that were hit with a large presence of family members of those killed on 9/11. You are entitled to your opinion though, regardless of how retarded it may be.
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http://news.google.com/news/section?pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=topic:osama_bin_laden&ict=clu_top
While I understand where Fog is coming from, and don't disagree with him entirely, I am glad he has finally been brought to some sort of justice. My preference would have been for a live capture, but that would have made things more difficult, and that thinking may have helped him get away in the past.
Still, given what we, as Americans, have had to endure over the last 10 years, this is a bittersweet victory, and that I think is where Fog is coming from. Heck, I just got back from driving my folks off at the airport (we were listening to NPR's coverage of it on the radio, saw the President's address last night after reading on my phone that bin Laden had been been killed), and I'm just thinking about how much more invasive TSA screenings and how much more of a hassle, in general, travel of any sort is. Whether it's a more invasive screening process at the airport, or the high cost of gas for your car, it's more expensive and more painful to travel any long distance.
The market reactions are funny, and telling as well - gold and oil are down, showing that when the world is perceived to be more stable, the nutters hoard gold and oil less. Markets truly are faith-based institutions. The world feels a little safer, it seems.
He hasn't been relevant for some time because he has had such limited contact with the outside world. The compound he was staying at, some say as far back as 2005, was a huge building - 8x larger than most buildings in the area, with 12-feet-thick walls, but no internet setup. Most of his comms were through the messenger that we traced to him. Ever since the western media broke the story that the US had been tapping his satellite-phone and the US shifted to drone-based recon, he went underground.
The fact that he was found in a town that is Pakistan's "West Point" military academy town, raises a lot of suspicions that the Pakistani authority may have been sheltering him.
Clinton spent a lot of effort trying to bring this guy to justice for the USS Cole. Then 9/11 happened on Bush's watch, and things really changed for the worse in this country. Fear and paranoia set in. In New York City, once home to places like Studio 54, the party was over. Our civil liberties eroded quickly in the name of "Patriotism" under the guise of a "War on Terror." We were told we were hated for our liberties, so they were taken away. Still, I'm hopeful that with this, some of those concessions we were forced to make under duress will come back to us.
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Sorry, Deadman, but your mind and memory are playing tricks on you, and that is what Washington D.C. is counting on (both the Dems and the Repubs).
The point of resurrecting OBL only to kill him (possibly again) is to remind Americans to fear terrorists, and the press is already at work telling us that things will be more dangerous now that OBL-- who has not been a daily topic of news for almost eight or nine years-- has been killed. We need to face the fact that Americans have allowed themselves to give up pretty much everything our Constitution stands for because people far and wide have been convinced to fear random, political crimes by Muslims that have never, ever, ever come close to taking as many lives in a single year as car accidents do. And we've spent trillions of dollars allegedly fighting a war on terror against a handful of disorganized rabble who never posed any real threat. This is all about perpetual war and empire fueled by the blood of innocent Americans (including our servicemen and women) and foreigners. Americans have been trained to fondle their inner whimps, and nothing is whimpier than cheering about allegedly killing a guy 10 years, trillions of dollars, and hundreds of thousands of innocent American, Iraqi and Afghani lives after we originally set out to do so. Succeeding now after such abject failure does not make the failure go away, it only underscores it.
If you read Milton Mayer's
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, it is impossible to not see modern day Americans reflected in the experience of German citizens during the Nazi years. Fear is a key component to building totalitarian and fascist regimes. (NOTE: there is a difference between totalitarianism and fascism that even this ridiculous retard understands; do you know what it is?)
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I'm just glad none of our guys that went in didn't get killed or wounded. He is just one of many who need to have a cap put through their hallow heads. Kill-em all and let the gods sort them out..
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I think your mind is playing tricks on you dude. I listen to people all the time talk about how this guy isnt real and never was and how this 'war' is all based on fear tactics, etc, etc, etc. Im as skeptical as anyone and find the entire story a bit unerving in the sense that they wont release photos and how he was buried at sea but until I have more than just circumstantial evidence that we are living under the control of a hidden agenda then you can keep your tin-foil hat. I absolutely know the difference between those 2 forms of government but Im not sure what you are trying to prove by bringing that up. The man responsible for thousands of deaths was killed, simple as that. If Im shown that the country Ive defended has been lying to me specifically about this or anything to do with 9/11 then I will think differently. If anything religion should be to blame
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Even football players have been questioning the celebratory mood people have been in.
http://mashable.com/2011/05/03/rashard-mendenhall-twitter/
And quite frankly, I agree with Mendenall and the remarks he made regarding morality, ethics, and whether it is right to celebrate the murder of any man, even if they were as insidious as OBL.
As I've said before, a long, painful, drawn-out existence can a fate worse than a swift release of death. I would have preferred a live capture, only so that we could force him to live in in squalor for the rest of his days.
All that said, I hope the Lockerbie bomber is next on the list. That fuckhead deserves to still be rotting in Scotland Yard. The Brits were a bunch of pussies to hand him over to Gadaffi, and the fact that he's still alive (almost a year later, wasn't he supposed to be dead after 6 months?) sticks in my craw.
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Also, what is
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Fuck him, I don't feel any remorse for his death. As a country we are way to soft, there is no such thing as being the better man in war. Do you think they feel bad for all the people they have killed (not just 9/11 or Americans only) Keep your politics, there is already another forum section for that.
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Quote from: [BDS] Oleander on May 04, 2011, 06:17:10 PM
Fuck him, I don't feel any remorse for his death. As a country we are way to soft, there is no such thing as being the better man in war. Do you think they feel bad for all the people they have killed (not just 9/11 or Americans only) Keep your politics, there is already another forum section for that.
Nobody is feeling remorse at OBL's death, certainly not me. And nobody asked you to feel remorse for anybody's death, either.
The fact is, though, that any rah-rah-sis-boom-bah reaction at OBL's shows just how soft and soft-minded the American people have become. The people are proving that Americans will sit idly by as their freedoms and livelihoods are taken from them, just so long as the Mommy state will keep them safe from the big bad wolf that the Mommy state gave birth to in the first place. Funny that.
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Quote from: [BDS]-Ole Man Rivers on May 03, 2011, 08:02:44 AM
I'm just glad none of our guys that went in didn't get killed or wounded. He is just one of many who need to have a cap put through their hallow heads. Kill-em all and let the gods sort them out..
I totally agree with the first two sentences, but not the third. God gave man a sense of morality so he would use it. Indeed, the whole point of man sorting things out for himself and doing so in a moral way is to get into Heaven in the first place. The reason you are happy to see OBL go is that he decided to kill 'em all and let god sort them out.
But you prove my point. Fear leads to hatred leads to evil. Again, Milton Mayer's
They Thought They Were Free
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http://www.amazon.com/They-Thought-Were-Free-Germans/dp/0226511928/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1304563354&sr=1-1
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Quote from: [BDS] DEADMAN on May 04, 2011, 02:36:54 PM
I think your mind is playing tricks on you dude. I listen to people all the time talk about how this guy isnt real and never was and how this 'war' is all based on fear tactics, etc, etc, etc. Im as skeptical as anyone and find the entire story a bit unerving in the sense that they wont release photos and how he was buried at sea but until I have more than just circumstantial evidence that we are living under the control of a hidden agenda then you can keep your tin-foil hat. I absolutely know the difference between those 2 forms of government but Im not sure what you are trying to prove by bringing that up. The man responsible for thousands of deaths was killed, simple as that. If Im shown that the country Ive defended has been lying to me specifically about this or anything to do with 9/11 then I will think differently. If anything religion should be to blame
You clearly have reading comprehension problems. I never said OBL isn't real and never was. This ain't about OBL. This ain't about photos (which I haven't mentioned and don't care about). This ain't about burial at see (which I haven't mentioned and dont care about). This ain't about hidden agendas, either, because the agenda that matters isn't hidden and never has been. And nobody said that your country has been lying to you about this or 9/11.
This is about how Washington uses fear to drive consensus that ultimately harms Americans. It did so under Dubya. It is doing so under Obama, who is really just serving out Dubya's third term. Look, I know I will never convince you to give up your illusions because they comfort you. All I'm asking you to do is question the motives behind the messaging. You won't, though, because you have been conditioned not to do so.
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I read what you wrote loud and clear, I said I listen to PEOPLE, I didnt say I listen to BDSfog and his conspiracy theories about how the country is trying to control its people through fear in the same fashion as nazi germany. I mentioned all of the things I did because thats the current issue that I have with it. You obiviously have issues with this country so I will end my portion of this coversation with this: You dont like it? Then get the fuck out.
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